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Post by Loriel on May 6, 2004 20:53:21 GMT -5
We do what we think is right, we put them on trial, and if guilty, they get thrown in jail
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Post by LONGGONEDEADFORUMS on May 7, 2004 2:21:40 GMT -5
but see Kara there is a problem
ehm no offense to anyone american but your legal system sucks, it's the only place in the world where you can sue a microwave company for trying to dry your cat in the microwave and kill it cause there was no "don't dry your cat in this" warning on the box.
tru jutice is blind, it shouldn't follow what some books says but be takken by logical thinking, laws have holes and they are easy to break through
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Post by Loriel on May 7, 2004 13:27:56 GMT -5
I do agree Zero. Our legal system stinks, greatly. But there is nothing I can do about it.
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Post by foghatrules on May 7, 2004 14:57:29 GMT -5
well,we're supposed to have the right to do what we want as long as we're not infringing on the rights of others. Unfortunatly, some people think that somehow that have the right to not be offended or angered ever, which they don't.
just another case of a few people ruining an otherwise really good idea.
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Post by Loriel on May 7, 2004 19:42:21 GMT -5
That is the way...people are...
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Post by Hades on May 8, 2004 17:47:16 GMT -5
I agree with Rillia. There is technically no good or evil because what we define as good and evil is all based upon perception.
If someone kills someone else, we may view that as evil, but to the murderer, they may have felt they've done a just action. If someone out of anger and passion kills another, then life has been taken, but depending on the scenario, we can view the murderer as either evil or just.
We can't have an honest or just opinion about anything really because we're biased. We all have our own common biases, but even so, we're biased just by being what we are. We're living, therefore we cannot judge death; we're human, therefore we cannot judge demon; etc. etc. It's all perception and how we interpret and understand situations and environments.
I myself do not believe in god, heaven, or hell. There are so many holes in Christianity, in all religions technically, and the Bible itself I could never take seriously; it has undergone many translations and versions while contradicting itself often. I would also like to point out that hell is actually never mentioned in the Bible; they mention fire and brimstone, but hell itself is never mentioned. I don’t mean to bash your religion; I encourage belief, but I personally do not approve of religion.
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Post by nonexisting on May 8, 2004 20:10:42 GMT -5
i haven't been following up on this thread (i didn't read anyone else opinion but decided to check out the last post)
Hades pretty much summed it up.
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Post by foghatrules on May 9, 2004 21:38:10 GMT -5
I don't see why something can't exist just because different people view it differently.
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Post by Ryokushin on May 9, 2004 22:22:31 GMT -5
There is no absolute evil or absolute good. We just think there is but in reality there is only one thing that modivates us... love. The only reason people hate is because:
1: They lost their love.
2: No one loves them
So that is why they are consumed by hatred. They are scared so they think hurting others will help...
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Post by nonexisting on May 10, 2004 20:52:50 GMT -5
I don't see why something can't exist just because different people view it differently. it was prolly me who used the word 'exist' so i'll correct myself it was, in my opinion those words don't serve any purpose but for humour or a fictional story. all honesty if i were to be fightin side by side with a person to save some er 'place' and my lil partner refered to 'us' as the 'good' guys while being completely serious in believing that we are. i'd take a baseball bat and take out their knee caps, maybe even their skull if it was on a bad day |
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Post by Hades on May 11, 2004 14:10:49 GMT -5
I don't see why something can't exist just because different people view it differently. Who judges what's right and wrong then? If perception is different, no one can be more right or wrong. If two people disagree, how can one be more right? There is no absolute evil or absolute good. We just think there is but in reality there is only one thing that modivates us... love. The only reason people hate is because: 1: They lost their love. 2: No one loves them So that is why they are consumed by hatred. They are scared so they think hurting others will help... This I feel is untrue because not all are motivated by love. People are selfish and can want money or sex; not all people do things for others. I feel that love and hate are really the same thing; after all, it's much easier to hate those you love than those you do not know. And people hate for more reasons than that. Hades |
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Post by Loriel on May 11, 2004 14:20:21 GMT -5
I don't think love and hate are the same thing. Love...it can't be described. But to me, light can't exist without dark, meaning i believe love can't exist without hate.
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Post by Hades on May 11, 2004 16:10:33 GMT -5
I agree. It's hard to describe their relationship. They are both the same thing, and yet two opposite poles on a magnet.
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Post by foghatrules on May 11, 2004 16:25:50 GMT -5
Who judges what's right and wrong then? If perception is different, no one can be more right or wrong. If two people disagree, how can one be more right? Hades everyone judges whats right and wrong. we disagree on a lot of stuff, but make some compromises as to support the majority. I realize this is a tyranny of the majority, but theres really no other way to have a legal system. Again, simply because people disagree on things is no reason to imply that those things do not exist. In fact I'd say that that is taking the easy way out, but thats just me. I could love John Elway, and you could hate John Elway, but that doesn't mean theres no John Elway. |
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Post by Hades on May 12, 2004 12:44:32 GMT -5
everyone judges whats right and wrong. we disagree on a lot of stuff, but make some compromises as to support the majority. I realize this is a tyranny of the majority, but theres really no other way to have a legal system. Again, simply because people disagree on things is no reason to imply that those things do not exist. In fact I'd say that that is taking the easy way out, but thats just me. I could love John Elway, and you could hate John Elway, but that doesn't mean theres no John Elway. What does that have to do with anything? For one, John Elway is a physical person we can all see with our own eyes. Love and hate are metaphysical and abstract conflicts that we each interpret differently. But to humor you, I'd like to stray a little further with your John Elway reference, who my step-dad knew personally, but that's beside the point. Anyway, I could look at his hair and think it was brown, and you could think it was blond. We have different perceptions because physically, our eyes do see colors differently, and also because we just have different opinions about what's brown and blond. Perception. Hades |
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