Ryokushin's Debate #1

[Ryokushin]

Okay let me start this off this way.

As much as I like demons and do not like angels I will just state these things right now. I do not like people who state, "Demons suck!" and don't know anything about them, same with the ones that say "Angels suck!" as much as I would like to agree I can't unless they state reasons.

Now here is my first Debate. Why would people say something like that? I must say I think it is because they are scared of the other. The thing with humans is that when we are scared we say things, racism.

[cloud]

When people say demon's suck, I think that they believe demon's are evil. Thats why that say it.

[Ryokushin]

In ways they are evil, well hell most of the time they are evil. All people have the capability to be evil but some just deny the fact and worship Christ. They think that if they do that they can wash all their sins clear by confessing them. If it is that easy then couldn't someone who is filled with sins get into heaven and then somehow take it over?

[Vicious]

Christianinty is rather simple as that.. What happens it that someone confesses to Christ, then when they confess that he is Lord, then from that they are wiped from sin completely.. even if they sin after confessing Christ, they still have no sin, so when they die and go to Heaven, they would be sinless, thanks to Christ.. hopefully that will help..

Now with the other part.. I fight demons, vampires, and so on.. the evil of them is there, but as you said before, some decide not to go with it.. but when someone says they hate them, well let them say they hate them, for what you think and say is one thing, while the one whom says it thinks another way.. you cannot truly stop what people say, for freedom of speech cannot be stopped..

[Ryokushin]

That is true you cannot stop what people say it is hard to change someones beliefs and I think that is a sin to try to do.

[Vicious]

Then you are saying that no one can go out there and attempt to bring people to what they say is true? then you are saying that there will be no more followers of anything when everyone dies..

[Ryokushin]

Well I am saying it is a sin to try to change someone elses beliefs am I wrong? If I was an atheist and you tried to bring me to christianity that would be a sin against you right?

[foghatrules]

well, I'd think that it's perfectly ok to inform someone of your religion with the intent that they will convert, as long as you leave the choice to them, and don't try to force it on them. Once you start forcing I'd say what you're doing is wrong.

[Vicious]

There is no sin in trying to sway someone to another religion.. the only problem I see is if you can do that, someone can come right behind you and sway them back to their original religion.. there is no true sin in trying to convert anyone to anything.. its wither or not you do it with the right intentions.. There is no wrong thing in bringing someone to your religion, just don't subject them to any harm..

[Ryokushin]

Man heh surprising. Okay then I guess that works. I didn't really think converting was a sin in the first place but oh well. By tomorrow I should think of another debate to go in this one

[LONGGONEDEADFORUMS]

who says this debate as ended, questions questions there are always more oppenions

what this debate started with, why some people say demons suck and some say angels suck

most people that say demons suck are christians believers that the demons are true evil, and visa versa with angels

the ones that say angels suck are usualy satanists

and people that say angeld suck well I have fun laughing behind their backs *smirks*

[Ryokushin]

I never said it ended -_- I just said I would wait to think of some more questions... and also here is another thing. I do not believe in god and people always just bash on me saying how crappy I am for that. Well I kick their ass for continuing stupid insults... -_-

[The Doom Merchant]

about all of the "its wrong to try and change someones beliefs" thing, i think that its only wrong if you try to force them to do it

[Loriel]

Sinning is like ringing a bell...everyone can do it...I just think Christianity is pointles...but there is truth in it. There is truth in it like every religion. People who say that angels or demons suck don't know a lot. And you can't say it in general because there are always exceptions. People would say that because of the way we view. The way we view changes everything. I don't think there is anything wrong with any religion. I dislike it when people go, oh because you are pagan you are going to hell unless you convert (which people havne't done thank the gods). It is just wrong. Well to me it is, maybe not to the Christians.

[lucciola]

cristyanity the religion i was born into and the one i still pracice thier are thogh some quarels i have woth crystianity the fact that the realigion is so intolerent makes many thigs compleastly unbeliveable like to think that God would send someone to hell simply becase they were born into a differient family into a differint religine or to think one would go to hell becase of somthing like sexuality i myself am bi-sexual i find judisim a more just religion