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Post by nonexisting on May 2, 2004 7:59:11 GMT -5
.. just because a person foresees something doesn't mean it'll happen. When one "foresees" they're seeing a something that may accure if they continue on the path they at the current moment chose to take. and i would say there is a destination.. life is lesson.. i'm sure most of you heard many say this. this life is a lesson.. one that you learn to move on.. "towards divination".. it's kinda like school... if you gettin F you get held back. so young
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Post by Vicious on May 5, 2004 7:29:49 GMT -5
Another debate that I really can't stand, but I will add my 5 cents to it though..
Life.. is it predetermined.. Yes and no.. depends on what you believe..
A reason to life.. Don't start me on that.. or else you'll put a pychic guy out of a job..
But Life.. as it was put in the Bible.. When you go to heaven, you look up and God asks you about it, then looking back you had good shots and bad shots, but YOU were the one to make the choices.. they weren't predetermined.. yet as you walk in you look on the other side of that door.. and it reads that it was your life was more and less set..
You have to make your choices.. wither good or bad, you are the ones that are making the choices.. not a book, not your parents, NOT GOD!!! You do it.. its like those adventure books where you have to flip through to get to that certain page and then you make the choice, go to this page or that page.. understand that is life in a nut shell..
P.Z. I've read it as well, but I am sorry to say.. ITS FALSE.. a BIG drop in the Big bucket of nothingness
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Post by ProphecyZero on May 5, 2004 7:46:38 GMT -5
P.Z. I've read it as well, but I am sorry to say.. ITS FALSE.. a BIG drop in the Big bucket of nothingness What did i say...anout the Matrix? I think your talking about SS
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Post by wontall on May 6, 2004 4:06:30 GMT -5
This is a story (Chinese I think) that sums up my opinion on fate pretty well.
One day one of the Emperor’s advisers was down at the market, when he sees Death. Death looks at him and smiles, the adviser seeing this he flees in terror back to the Emperor. When he gets there he tells him what happened that Death smiled at him, which meant he was going to die. “I need to get far away from here, maybe to the eastern post” (wasn’t called the eastern post but I can’t remember the original name).”But I need you here” the Emperor replied, “Please if I don’t I’ll die”. The Emperor thought about it for a wile and with a sigh said “fine you can go”. Later the Emperor went to the market to find Death, eventually he found him and asked why he had smiled at his adviser. Death laughed. “I just thought it was coincidence, sense I have a appointment with him today at the eastern post”<br>
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Post by ProphecyZero on May 7, 2004 7:45:24 GMT -5
Hehe, i like that
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Post by Loriel on May 11, 2004 14:23:56 GMT -5
Do you think there is a reason to everyone? Do you think your paths are already chosen and you are just following them? What are your thoughts on this? i don't think your path is chosen, i mean, there is always two choices, like choosing a green or a red apple. Sometimes there are many other choices than just two. If i believed my path was already chosen, I would be a fatalist and I don't believe like that. I mean there are probably events that are inevitable. But is there a reason for your life? yes i think so
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Post by The Doom Merchant on Jun 14, 2004 21:44:48 GMT -5
about the whole free will thing, im really not sure but on the whole "fate and your path is set" thing, maybe those of you can see the future to give you the option of changing it o.o
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Post by lucciola on Jul 14, 2005 1:05:58 GMT -5
indeed i do belive that all paths are alredy chosen all the influences the DNA the way people act all chainreaction all of it if you could trace back to the begining of all time you could find every enent that led to every evernt and so on all a chain reaction
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Post by lucciola on Jul 14, 2005 1:08:33 GMT -5
no no such thing as free will cus one somthing has happend thier is no changing it and thier never was any changing it thier never will be past present futer its all set in stone the finnal outcome will be the same no matter what
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Post by Esper on Jul 14, 2005 11:45:34 GMT -5
You can read from a lot of places stating facts...like those Ki websites...that teach you DBZ techniques, oh thats real...
I believe that all of us have a destiny in some way to fufill. But you can change it conciously or uncounciosly, either by the invisible rules of society or fear of losing something or some other unexplainable reason.
Maybe the truth is that we can't change our futures. If thats true then its like riding a rollercoaster that you watched a movie on. Nothings a suprise, even though going down those hills will still suprise you.
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Post by Tel'Sequierel on Jul 22, 2005 9:25:31 GMT -5
there is a reason why what reason we may never know but there is always a reason to everything that happens and for everything that is done there is a reason there is always a why and sence this reson is alredy predetermined that means also that nothng will stray from the path it is ment to take so in other words there is no chaning anything that is going to happen if you could travel into the past or the future the outcome you change will be probaly what you were trying to prevent
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